Rebuttal of  wolfeborobible's   "The Sin of Masturbation!"

 

 

The Sexual Sin no one ever discusses - Masturbation - Pleasing Self Sexually.

 

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>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>> Matthew 5:27, "You have heard that it was said to those of old, `You shall not commit adultery.' 28, "But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

 

What is Jesus saying here in Matthew chapter 5? First of all, the Lord is telling us that the act of Adultery and the act of thinking about adultery are on an equal plain of sinfulness from God's perspective. As Christians, we need to be careful not to do what the world does, that is to view sin from man's perspective

 

***********Inkaboutit reply**********Matt 5:28-30 is more about lust to steal another man's wife away from her husband, not just about want to have sex with her.  You need to understand adultery in the Bible and also understand sex is not evil lust.

 

Major contradiction-- verse used by anti-masturbation and anti-nudist people. Matt. 5:28 is totally misunderstood and taken out of context. "look at a women with lust...adultery" http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/Lustmt528.html

 

A man was NOT considered an adulterer if he engaged in sexual relations with....... Sex with Mutual consent of spouse.... Also when letting another man have sex with his wives and concubines. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/adultdefine.html

 

 Masturbation is a gift of God. Sex is a gift of God to us. Sexual lust is not evil lust, it is God designed human nature. Evil lust is hurtful and harmful to humans. Masturbation is healthy. Masturbation is good. Masturbation is God designed. Masturbation is good for you. Masturbation is for everyone to enjoy.

 

Is Masturbation a sin?  Clearly NOT!!!   It is clearly not a sin in the Bible!! http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/masturbationnotsinlev1516.html

 

>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>>. Unsaved man says: "living together unmarried is all right, having children out of wed-lock is all right, having sex outside of marriage is all right and pleasing yourself sexually is all right!" BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT GOD SAYS !

 

***********Inkaboutit reply**********Not anything to do with masturbation.  Trying to mix masturbation with other sexual activity.

 

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>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>> What does masturbation or sexually pleasing your self have to do with Matthew 5:28? Plenty! Jesus is saying to us that the act or the thought of adultery are both sinful. The moment a man or a woman begins to focus on pleasing themselves sexually, they're oppening their mind up to lusting in the mind, which is sinful.

 

***********Inkaboutit reply**********Sexual lust is not evil. Sexual lust  and sexual fantasies are very important parts of God's sexual designed and if you call them a sin and remove them 100% then God sexual design would not even work at all. Matt 5:28-30 was speaking not mainly to his disciples or Christians, but was talking to the holier then thou Pharisees who were trying to find a way to kill him. For more explanation check my web page.

 

Major contradiction-- verse used by anti-masturbation and anti-nudist people. Matt. 5:28 is totally misunderstood and taken out of context. "look at a women with lust...adultery" http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/Lustmt528.html

 

>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>> The Bible only provides for sexual satisfaction and fulfillment in the marriage relationship, PERIOD!

 

***********Inkaboutit reply**********This is not true. The Bible had Godly men having sex with: wives, concubines, handmaids, prostitutes, Ex 21:4 master loan some of there wives and concubine to servant to borrow when they work for the master, when they leave the have to return the master's wife back to the master and not of was condemned by God or the prophets of the time useless the man was stealing or using another man wives without his permission. Even in 2Sam 12:8 the God himself give King David all his wives and if he want more he could have as many as he wanted just don't steal another man wife.

 

A man was NOT considered an adulterer if he engaged in sexual relations with....... Sex with Mutual consent of spouse.... Also when letting another man have sex with his wives and concubines. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/adultdefine.html

 

>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>>1Corinthians 7:2, "Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband." 1 Cor. 7:3, Let the husband render to his wife the affection due her, and likewise also the wife to her husband. 4, The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. 5, Do not deprive one another except with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again so that Satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

 

In the 1 Cor. 7 passage, you see no mention of pleasing self sexually, but rather, the spouse's responsibility is towards the other marriage partner. Masturbation goes against this biblical teaching of meeting the others need. Pleasing yourself sexually sets you up to have a self-serving mind set in marriage and this will only lead to problems in the marriage. Be forewarned, young people, what you do now could be setting up a habbit that will hinder your marriage in the future.

 

 

***********Inkaboutit reply**********Nothing against masturbation. Men have two major passions. One is to get sexual tension stress relieve, by masturbation or intercourse. The second it the passion to make love to a women. In Corinth they had 1000 to 2000 cultic temple worshipper of a demon fertility deity  god where they would seduce men to give them free sex to get them to worship their god in promise that there god would give them good farm crops. Also if the get pregnant they may giver the baby has a human scarifice to the deity god to get more benefits. We need to apply the law of love to solo and marriage or partner  sex.

 

What is the definition of fornication? http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/fornication.html

 

>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>> The Greek word that translates "sexual immorality" is "porneia", from which we get our English word, "pornography". Pornography entices people to think, to look and to please self. This is just what Jesus was saying NOT to do in Matthew 5:28. "Porneia" does not require a picture on paper or a computer screen. "Porneia", sexual immorality can be a picture in your mind. Here lies one of the biggest problems with masturbation. You're setting yourself up to think about or imagine a sexual partner. This is nothing but fornication of the mind, adultery of the mind and immorality of the mind! All of which is Sin before God.

***********Inkaboutit reply**********Very misleading and wrong understanding.  Masturbation is NOT fornication nor "sexual immorality" nor porneia nor adultery. He connects fornication with adultery and they are not the same and they are not masturbation. Check out the web site.

 

What is the definition of fornication? http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/fornication.html

Define Fornication. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/fornicationdefine.html

Biblical Issues Regarding Fornication (Singles Sexuality) http://www.libchrist.com/bible/fornication.html

 

>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>> Ponder the following Bible passage in the light or what we think about and what we should think about:

 Philippians 4:8, "Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy, meditate on these things."

 

***********Inkaboutit reply********** Masturbation is loving yourself thinking of loving another and thinking that person loves you back, and loving God more for giving a fun loving sexy, lusty fun gift to us all to enjoy and give God the glory for being a wonderful loving creator. We are under the law of love.

 

Jas 2:12 - So whenever you speak, or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law of love, the law that set you free.

 

Ge 1:31 - Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. ...(Note: God designed our human nature, every detail of our natural sexuality, and said it was all very good. The only bad part of us is what we added, the "sin principal" part.)

 

Tit 1:15 Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

 

Ro 13:9 - For the commandments against adultery and murder and stealing and coveting – and any other commandment – are all summed up in this one commandment: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

 

>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>> It's quite clear that pleasing yourself sexually would violate the teaching we find in Philippians 4:8, 1 Corinthians 7:2, Matthew 5:28 and a host of other passages in God's Word.

 

***********Inkaboutit reply**********Not true. Wrong conclusion. Already told the reasons above.

 

>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>> The apostle Peter describes the wicked as "Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children" 2Pe 2:14. If you're a Christian, your heart and mind should not be full of adultery, but rather your heart should be full of pure things and God honoring things.

 

***********Inkaboutit reply**********Again you need to understand adultery in the Bible times. Wanting to steal or use a another man's wife without his permission, not just about God designed loving  sexual lust.

 

>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>> Job, in the Old Testament, gives us some godly advice:

 

 Job 31:1 "I have made a covenant with my eyes; Why then should I look upon a young woman?"

He made a vow with his heart and with his eyes not to look were he should not, not to look upon women to lust. We need to do the same wheather you're a young man or young women. Determine not to let your mind go where the Lord never intended it to go. In God's power, you can win the battle of the mind!

 

***********Inkaboutit reply**********The context of Job 31:1 Job is that he is in a state confusion trying to figure out why God took everything and everybody away from him. He is wondering if he sin in any way and make guesses. This is not a command to the whole world, but a guess on Job's part. He did not have any list of rule from God or prophets. This is only a personal thing for job only, based only on things taught him from others.  We are not under any list of rule. Today we are under the law of love.  

 

Jas 2:12 - So whenever you speak, or whatever you do, remember that you will be judged by the law of love, the law that set you free.

 

Ro 13:9 - For the commandments against adultery and murder and stealing and coveting – and any other commandment – are all summed up in this one commandment: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

 

>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>> Christians need to understand that God gave the sexual relationship in order for one spouse to please their partner. The focus is not on pleasing self, but rather on pleasing your spouse! Consider the following passage of Scripture:

 

***********Inkaboutit reply**********Wrong man made conclusion. God gave puberty and sexuality to all people, to all single people, and not only to a few happily married couples.

 

 

>>>>>>wolfeborobible said>>>>>> Some practical thoughts on how to have victory over the sin of Self-Sexual Sins or Masturbation:

 

***********Inkaboutit reply**********Why stop something that gives you 50 health benefits. Avoiding solo or partner sex may cause blockage that can lead to cancer and death.

 

 

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Masturbation is a gift of God. Sex is a gift of God to us. Sexual lust is not evil lust, it is God designed human nature. Evil lust is hurtful and harmful to humans. Masturbation is healthy. Masturbation is good. Masturbation is God designed. Masturbation is good for you. Masturbation is for everyone to enjoy.

Is Masturbation a sin?  Clearly NOT!!!   It is clearly not a sin in the Bible!! http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/masturbationnotsinlev1516.html

Major contradiction-- verse used by anti-masturbation and anti-nudist people. Matt. 5:28 is totally misunderstood and taken out of context. "look at a women with lust...adultery" http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/Lustmt528.html

Major research on masturbation, the Bible, Christianity, sexuality,  to clearly show that masturbation is a wonderful gift from God for us to enjoy. God designed every detail for us to enjoy.  http://christianmasturbation.homestead.com/index.html  

Letter To Anti-masturbation teachers. I can clearly show you that with your anti-masturbation teaching that you are harming and hurting God, others, and yourself. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/masturbationlettertoanti.html

A man was NOT considered an adulterer if he engaged in sexual relations with....... Sex with Mutual consent of spouse.... Also when letting another man have sex with his wives and concubines. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/adultdefine.html

Masturbation positive talk: many Christian people, Ministers, College Professors, Bible teachers,  saying masturbation is not a sin and is very healthy for you.   http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/highlight2.html

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