Inkaboutit Rebuttal to public web site of Dr. Trudy Veerman, Webmaster:
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1John 2:16, 17... For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world is passing away, and the lust of it; but who does the will of God abides forever.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: Nothing to do with masturbation at all. You have to keep this in proper context. There is a different between God design normal lust and evil lust. There are good lust and evil lust. God designed sexuality and said it was very good. Sexual lust and sexual fantasies are an very important part of God's sexual plan. If you remove 100% sexual lust and sexual fantasies you would have a major problem with God sexual design, it would not work at all. We lust for food, water, air, room and broad, sexual, and many other things that are not evil. This verse is talking about evil lust. Masturbation is more along the lines of loving yourself, thinking of making love to someone else.*******
James 1: 14, 15... But every man is tempted, when he is drawn of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust has conceived, it brings forth sin: and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: To
figure out what lust the writer is talking about, you would have to ask some
questions, starting from the end of the verse first. What things cause death? What sins cause death? What
lusts cause sins? Normal
masturbation does not fit any of those questions. Masturbation cause many
wonderful health benefits and prolong life. The lack of masturbation promote
death, cancer, blockage, stress, pain, torment, depression, suicides. The lack
of masturbation and promoting man made guilt trips look more like a sin to me.
Masturbation is a wonderful gift of God for us to enjoy with prise to God for
the pleasure and enjoyment.
This verse has
Nothing to do with masturbation at all.
God made us and our human nature, including our sexuality and said it
was very good, accept for the "sin principal part", which is:
unforgiving, selfish, greedy, unloving, bitter, hatred, unkind, no mercy,
conceited, provoking one another, envying one another, idolatry, sorcery,
hatreds, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambitions, envy, drunkenness,
witchcraft, wrath, strife, murders, lies etc. Masturbation is not a sin, if you sow masturbation you reap
many good benefits, no negative side effects. The lack of masturbation may
cause death, cancer, and blockage. So you are more likely sinning if you do not
masturbate to prevent cancer, and blockage and not release the sperm built
up. Anti-masturbation have things
backward. ******
Satan is your enemy and he comes with sugar-coated sins and thoughts.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: Anti-masturbationist are condemning one of God wonderful gifts to mankind. Turning a gift of God into a sin does great harm. Great injustice to God and man. It causes Christians that have a normal God given, God designed sex drive to think they are defeated Christians, always disobedience to God. When God gave sexuality and masturbation to enjoy and be a blessing from God, they turn it into a curse and pass condemnation onto Christian.
Once he has got your attention, he puts some "glue" on it and makes your thoughts stick a bit longer. You will now start brooding upon sinful and lustful thoughts. These want to be satisfied, for it is the old stinking flesh which is lusting. Once this lust of the flesh is satisfied you've sinned, and the bitter taste comes after. You're now separated from God and you feel dirty and sinful. Satan has dropped you in your own vomit. This will repeat itself over and over again, until you take a hold of your thoughts and bring them under subjection BEFORE you think twice.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: Trudy stories of "misery and pain" " mess of your". This shows where Trudy is coming from. Trudy is full of man made guilt that some one taught her. Many people greatly enjoy masturbation and sexual enjoy.****
You need the infilling of the Holy Spirit. You need supernatural power to overcome this stronghold in your life. Start walking in His word, DO what God requires from you. Don't be a hearer only, but DO according to His word. Start getting that sling ready and get the stone right between satan's eyeballs. You just swing that sling and the Lord will make it ring !! AMEN !! Read the story of David and Goliath. If David dared to attack this giant, how the more can you do it. You've got Jesus right walking beside you ! Didn't He say that ALL things are possible with God to them that believe?
Romans 13:14... But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill the lusts thereof.
Titus 2: 11, 12... For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and wordly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: This is about evil lust not God designed sexual lust. Galatians 5 fruits of the flesh or sin principal. Nothing to do with masturbation at all. God made us and our human nature, including our sexuality and said it was very good, accept for the "sin principal part", which we added, which is: unforgiving, selfish, greedy, unloving, bitter, hatred, unkind, no mercy, conceited, provoking one another, envying one another, idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambitions, envy, drunkenness, witchcraft, wrath, strife, murders, lies etc.
Masturbation is not a sin, if you sow masturbation you reap many good benefits, no negative side effects. ********
2 Peter 1: 4... Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: Did
Adam and Eve have God designed sexual lust and ran around nude before they
added the sin principal and was trying to hide behind trees and brushes from
God? We are new creation in
Christ, just like Adam and Eve before they sinned. We don't have to run around
hiding behind trees and bushes any more.*********
Romans 6: 12... Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that you should obey it in the lusts thereof.
1 Peter 2: 11... Dearly beloved, I beg you as sojourners and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts which wars against the soul.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: Again
Galatians 5 the sin principal part and the lust to hurt, lust to harm, lust to murder,
lust to steal, lust to lie, lust to be unforgiving, lust to not praise God, in
Bible day they lusted to copy others by worshipping other gods, lust to worship
good luck charms, lust to hate, lust to be bitter, lust to have proud filled
heart. God is love. The spirit of
love wars against the spirit of hate.
The fruit of the (flesh)"sin principal" war against the fruits of spirit . Or
the fruits of God and God is love. The whole law is fulfilled in to love God
and love your neighbor as yourself. ******
Self-Control.
*****Reply from inkaboutit:
Masturbation help self control.
Starvation hurt self control. If you have food, water, or air, sexual
starvation you can lose self control and do bad things like stealing, killing or
rape to get basic needs meet. By regulating and meeting our food, water, air, room and broad
and sexual needs we stay in self control to love one another better.
Anti-masturbation hurt self
control, they promote sexual starvation that promotes the lack of control. They want to take away God designed
"way of escape" for sexual tension stress release and have no sexual
tension stress release and no way
of escape. This results in stress, depression, frustration, anger, defeated
attitude, suicide feelings, man made guilty trip, low self esteem and more
negative feeling. *******
Proverbs 25:28... Like a city whose walls are broken down is a man who lacks self-control.
1 Corinthians 7: 5..... so that satan does not tempt you because of your lack of self-control..
1 Corinthians 7: 9...but if they cannot exercise self-control, let them marry.
A believer must change from a sinful behaviour to please God.
Confessing sin to God and to them that you have sinned against.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: Masturbation
is not a sin against anyone, not God, not others, and not yourself. It has a lot of wonderful
health benefits and it’s a lot of fun.
Advantages of
MASTURBATION By Ph.D Albert Ellis (50 Advantages) 5 pages of Sexual Advantages,
Emotional Advantages, Healthful Advantages, Relational Advantages, and others. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/mmadvantages50.html
Modern Sex Research
Says This About MASTURBATION 23 Benefits By Manfred F. Martino a College
Professor. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/mmadvantages23.html
Why is MASTURBATION
so Popular. Page 14 - 15 reasons.
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/mapopular.html
The Healing Power
of Sex. Celibacy can be hazardous to your health. http://www.libchrist.com/sexed/healing.html
Masturbation is
required http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/mmrequired.html
Solo Ejaculations Maintain Healthy Prostate For Men http://www.proaxis.com/~solo/prost.htm MASTURBATION has a lot Going for it http://www.proaxis.com/~solo/120798d.htm **********
You must acknowledge that bad behaviour cannot be excused, and that it is sin.
You must ask for forgiveness from God and people involved.
You must repent of your sin.
Repentance is a change of mind about one's beliefs, attitudes, and behaviours.
It involves regret about sin and related issues.
It demands a change of lifestyle as outward evidence and of a desire to be different.
Forsake your sinful way.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: Don't you see the torment that trudy goes through every time she masturbate. Don't you feel sorry for her. Do you see her self hatred? Do you see her depression? Jesus said "my yoke is easy" . When anyone takes away God easy way of escape by way of masturbation then the yoke becomes very hard. When ever anyone adds works to grace salvation, then the yoke become very hard. Trying to work your way to heaven is a very heavy yoke. Jesus yoke is easy.********
Abandon connections which are involved in that sin, such as people, places, activities etc.
Rid yourself of any influence that might lead you back to sin; as possible, destroy any related material.
Stay away as far as you can from the slippery edge of sin; screen your TV/Movie/Internet watching etc.
Don't walk on thin ice. Don't allow yourself to get into temptation.
Begin the alternative way of life that is pleasing unto God.
Discipline and train yourself in righteousness;
Put on an entirely different way of thinking and living;
Bring all your thoughts under subjection, at His feet;
Replace sinful habits and lifestyles with biblical ones, i.e. not cursing... but praising.
1 John 1:9... If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
It takes homework to adjust to this new life in Jesus Christ, but it is far better than living separated from God. With Paul you can say: "I can do ALL things through Christ, my Lord." He will give you strength. Lean on the Lord and not on your own understanding.
Proverbs 3:6.... In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct your paths.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: Don't acknowledge Trudy path, but go to the Bible where NOT ONE of the Bible writers call masturbation a sin, but Trudy does. Jesus does not but Trudy does. Trudy can't find one verse that says masturbation is a sin so she has to read between the lines, so she can past condemnation on God wonderful gift to us. The Bible (Gen 1:27, 31) said that God made us including our sexual lust and sex drives and sexual desires and said it was very good. Trudy says the opposite.
John 15:7.... If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.
You don't have to do too much to get the victory you need. There is a key factor that MUST be applied in order to let the flesh know you mean business: "DECISION"! The decision to surrender one's will to God!
Any thought about lust, bring it immediately to the Lord and speak out loud that you don't want to do this, in Jesus name. Start quoting a Scripture or singing a Hymn, and sin and satan will soon vanish. The Bible states: Walk holy for He is holy. Holy means separated from this sinful world.
Your own logic will say that it is unattainable! But once you've surrendered your will and allow Him to take over, He will bring it to pass. He will reinforce your decision. In your own perspective you will still look at the whole picture with the "carnal" mind! The fear of failure that may have haunted you for years may be all you see. Intercessory prayer on your behalf, and you for others, is necessary to break through! Intercessory prayer is one of the most effective and powerful type prayers that brings results to your OWN life!
You have to realize that the nature of our walk is to sin! We do it because we inherited the very characteristic of doing the opposite of what God intended for us to do when Adam sinned. The role of serving God and rendering our allegiance and praise to him was destroyed and a different role took it’s place via the selfish ambitions and the free will to act out our own power of decision! This is the key word: "Decision"!
Just as much as when the sinful characteristic took over our will, in the same way did the power of Christ's Blood exemplified the role we initially had! Because of it, you now have the power to play the initial role of allegiance to God that brings LIFE and FREEDOM! You can now CHOOSE (use the same decisive self will that destroyed the initial allegiance to God) not to subject to the flesh, with the very same power that the flesh uses to prompt you to subject to it! This will set you free from mind binding spirits that are dwelling within, which are empowered by your own decisions, which will eventually and gradually destroy you!
Ephesians 6:12... For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: Galatians 5:17 "The old sinful nature loves to do evil, which is just opposite from what the Holy Spirit wants. And the Spirit gives us desires that are opposite from what the sinful nature desires. These two forces are constantly fighting each other, and your choices are never free from this conflict."
We do wrestle with the fruits of the flesh (the sin principal part of us that we made), but not with the God designed flesh part, the human nature part that God designed which includes sexuality and masturbation. Adam and Eve before they sinned masturbated and had sexual lust, sexual fantasies, sexual desires, and sex hormones. This is all part of God's sexual design that he said was very good.
Even after they sinned, what sex rules did God give Adam and Eve? Sex was not evil. They were mostly under the same law of love that we are under today. Today sex is still not evil. Just like Adam and Eve we need to apply the law of love to our sexual desires. The fall into sin had consequences that are clearly spelled out in Genesis; so do NOT over do the consequences and add to them, that are clearly spelled out in Genesis.*******
Immediate change will take place as you decide to surrender your will and your ALL to the Lord. Spiritual laws are automatically falling into place and the Power of The Holy Spirit instantaneously will begin His work on you!
May the following Words of the Lord reinforce your walk with Him.
Philippians 4:8... Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy - meditate on THESE things.
*****Reply from inkaboutit: What is the context of this verse? nothing to do with masturbation at all. Masturbation and sex are not evil, they is a gift of God. The same thoughts, sex drive, sexual lust, sexual fantasies are in both sex and masturbation and both are designed by God and he said was very good.
The context is more along the line of turning negative thoughts of hardships into positive thoughts of counting your many blessing.
This is not against God designed loving sexual lust and loving sexual fantasies. Masturbation is more along the lines of loving yourself thinking of loving someone else and praising God for makeing sex so much fun and for giving it to us as a gift to enjoy. This is fulfilling the law of love—Love God, love others, as you love yourself. *******
1 Cor 2:16b... But we have the mind of Christ.
Romans 8:5,6... For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death, but for the spiritually minded is life and peace.
*****Reply from inkaboutit:
Galatians 5 talks about the fruits of the "sin principal" part of us
that we add to God designed human nature.
NOT ONE of the 40+ Bible writers said masturbation was a sin. Jesus
never said masturbation was a sin.
God made us and our human nature, including our sexuality and said it was very good, accept for the "sin principal part", which is: unforgiving, selfish, greedy, unloving, bitter, hatred, unkind, no mercy, conceited, provoking one another, envying one another, idolatry, sorcery, hatreds, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambitions, envy, drunkenness, witchcraft, wrath, strife, murders, lies etc. ******
If you really love the Lord and desire to follow Him, if you want His protection all the days of your life, lift up your hands to Him and cry out for the power of the Holy Spirit to overcome. SURRENDER COMPLETELY. Ask the Lord to forgive you and cleanse you in His blood and walk in His ways. He hears you and knows the sincerity of your heart. Find a mature Christian, with whom you can confide in, who can help you and encourage you in this. One you can be accountable to concerning overcoming this lust of the flesh.
Psalm 50:15....Call upon Me in the day of trouble; I will deliver you, and you shall glorify Me.
Find a Christian friend you can trust, who will support you in your endeavours, who is willing to pray with you and fight the good fight of faith.
Grab the VICTORY in Jesus Christ.
Jesus is so wonderful, put your head to rest on His shoulder, lay your burdens before His feet, give Him your hopelessness, hand Him your dish of sin, allow Him to wipe away your tears. Yes, allow Him to touch you, to heal you, to restore you, to uplift you, to deliver you, to create something wonderful out of your mess, your pain, your sorrow. He did it before and He will do it again. Don't be ashamed for confessing your sins, not confessing is far worse. Confessing your sins before the Judgement Throne is too late! Make up your mind while you still can.
Please, enjoy this powerful poetic page. May His name be glorified.
HOLD ME TIGHT, DEAR JESUS !
Be encouraged, JESUS is standing with outstretched hands, ready to rescue you.
God's Word provides direction and encouragement, the Holy Spirit provides power to overcome. Have faith in God!.
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Major Research on Sexuality in the Bible and the Liberated Christian. God made sexuality, both animal and human. He said it was very good. Only part of human nature is evil is the "sin principal part", not our sexuality or our nude human body. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/index6.html
Major research on masturbation, the Bible, Christianity, sexuality, to clearly show that masturbation is a wonderful gift from God for us to enjoy. God designed every detail for us to enjoy. http://christianmasturbation.homestead.com/index.html
Letter To Anti-masturbation teachers. I can clearly show you that with your anti-masturbation teaching that you are harming and hurting God, others, and yourself. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/masturbationlettertoanti.html
Major contradiction-- verse used by anti-nudist people. Matt. 5:28 is totally misunderstood and taken out of context. "look at a women with lust...adultery" http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/Lustmt528.html
Masturbation positive talk: many Christian people, Ministers, College Professors, Bible teachers, saying masturbation is not a sin and is very healthy for you. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/highlight2.html
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Liberated Christian
Forum that talks about everything. Masturbation, swinging, incest, fornication,
adultery, common prostitution, etc.
Liberated
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sexual freedom. http://www.libchrist.com/interact/2002%20Iintroductions.htmlThis
is very major important for you to understand yours and others sexuality. This
effect everyone sexuality, as well as many other aspects of your life, so it is
very important for you understand. It took me 30 years just to find this
information. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/eandp.htmlLegalism vs. grace and liberty to love one another. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/loving.htmlThe Liberated Christian (has many links also) We are free in
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