Matthew 5:28-32 totally taken out of context. Sexual desire, fantasies are not evil. They are a very important part of God's sexual designed. They put sin in the definition of the word lust. So if you ask if lust is a sin, it is because they put sin in the definition. Two translation of the Bible do not use the word lust for that reason. Instead they use "sinful desire" in place of the word " lust".Jesus talks one way to his followers and another way to his enemies. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/rightlydiv.html Almost any time you talk
about nudity or sex to a Christian,
Matt 5:28-32 always comes up, as if,
it was the number one main verse in all
the Bible about nudity and sex.
It is not. Matthew 5:28-32 -- Most
Christians totally taken these verses
out of context. Loving Sexual desire and loving sexual fantasies are not
evil. They are a very important part of God's sexual designed. Very important verse to
understand. Mark 4:10(To Jesus close
followers)--- “And when he was alone,
they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable. 11 And he
said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of
God:” (to Jesus enemies)— “ but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: 12
That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear,
and not
understand; lest at any
time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.” (So they do not get saved) Lu 10:21Then Jesus was filled with
the joy of the Holy Spirit and said, "O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, thank you for hiding the
truth from those who think themselves so wise
and clever, (the religious leaders of that day) and for revealing it to the
childlike. Yes, Father, it pleased you to do it this way. Luke 10:17-24 17 When the seventy-two disciples returned, they
joyfully reported to him, "Lord, even the demons obey us when
we use your name!" 18 "Yes," he told them, "I saw Satan
falling from heaven as a flash of lightning! 19 And I have given you authority
over all the power of the enemy, and you can walk among snakes and scorpions
and crush them. Nothing will injure you. 20 But don't rejoice just because evil
spirits obey you; rejoice because your names are registered as citizens of
heaven." 21 Then Jesus was filled with the joy of the Holy Spirit and
said, "O
Father, Lord of heaven and earth, thank you for hiding the truth from those who
think themselves so wise and clever, and for revealing it to the childlike.
Yes, Father, it pleased you to do it this way. 22 "My Father
has given me authority over everything. No one really knows the Son except the
Father, and no one really knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the
Son chooses to reveal him." 23 Then when they were alone, he turned to the
disciples and said, "How privileged you are to see what you have seen. 24 I
tell you, many prophets and kings have longed to see and hear what you have
seen and heard, but they could not." The Sermon on the Mount
would be a “Parable” on the Mount. Treated just like the other parables. Much
of the SOM is spoken to Jesus enemies, not his friends. Mat 5: 1-15 clearly sounds like it was just to his 12 Disciples,
but after that it is a guessing game. Most of the time when he spoke about
things of the Law it was to his enemies. Which would be Matt 5:17 and after. So
Mark 4:10, LK 10:21 applies. Matt 5: 28-32 was spoken to Jesus enemies. So
Mark 4:10 applies Jesus purpose for speaking
to his enemy was to confuse,
confound, one-upmanship to make there yoke harder, if not impossible. In their heart they reject Jesus
and wanted to kill him. They are close minded, only following there leaders
sayings. They were putting heavy burdens on the people. Jesus had contempt for them. Jesus intentionally
help them not to perceive and not to understand to prevent them from coming to
the true “lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be
forgiven them”, which is needed to be saved. Jesus knew there hearts. Jesus, as a Rabbi, was training 12 disciples, so the religious
leaders would spy on Jesus to see what he was teaching them. Similar to a
principal stepping in a class room to monitor how the teacher is teaching and
what they are teaching. But they were very jealous of Jesus and want to catch
him with wrong teaching so they could have him killed. Matthew 5:28 totally
misunderstood. Normal healthy loving sexual desire and sexual fantasies are not
evil. They are a very important part of God's sexual designed. If you use wrong
definitions and the wrong kind of desire
and do not remember that adultery was more about betrayal then it was about
sex, then you can come up with wrong conclusions and make this sound like a
major contradiction to Gods sexual design for the human male. What was adultery
in the Bible days? Jesus talks one way to his
followers and another way to his enemies. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/rightlydiv.html
Song of Solomon clearly
shows that strong sexual desire and wanting to have sex with others is very
good and very beautiful thing. As long as you don’t use
your sexuality to join in the worship of a pagan gods and you don’t use another
man property ( his owned women), without his permission. Solomon wisest man on earth with God’s
wisdom given to him by God is a married man with 60 wives and 80 concubines,
and unlimited amount of single women available to him, (So 6:8) is trying to
sexually seduce a very beautiful sexy single virgin girl, having nude dates, lots of kissing her whole body, and oral sex, but no sexual intercourse. They are not married. The single girl is
still a single virgin at the end of the SOS because married women in Bible days
had sex on there wedding day to prove they are a virgin because the husbands
paid a lot more money to buy a virgin daughter then they did to buy a
non-virgin daughter. A major purchased property. God is pro-nudity, pro-sex with many sex
partners, clearly shown in his creation and in the Bible. God is pro-polygamy.
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/Godprosex.html
2 Samuel 12:8 I (God) gave you (King David) his (King Saul) house and his wives and the kingdoms of Israel
and Judah. And if that had not been enough, I would have given you much, much
more. (unlimited amount) So 6:8 There may be sixty wives, all queens, and eighty
concubines and unnumbered (unlimited) virgins available to
me. (About King Solomon.) So 8:10 "I am chaste (virgin), and I am now full breasted.
And my lover is content with me. Also in Proverbs 30:18 There are three things that amaze me ? no,
four things I do not understand: 19 how an eagle glides
through the sky, how a snake slithers on a rock, how a ship navigates the ocean, how a man loves a woman. “how a man loves a woman.” This would include the sexual seducing her and the intense sexual love for her,
similar that is in SOS. About sexual freedom, God
is the same today as he was back in the OT. We also can have unlimited amount
of women today as they had back then. God is very pro-nudity and pro-sex. God’s
creation proves it. Also review these web
sites to understand the different sexual terms used in Matt 5:28 http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/sum.html
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/divinesexbookfree.html
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/adultdefine.html http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/fornicationdefine.html http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/adultery.html http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/fornication.html http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/index6.html
A Bible verse where a man let another man have sex with his wife. Not adultery. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/sharingwife.html If you only take these verses Mt 5:28-32
at face value, out of context, misunderstood,
then they become major
contradiction to many things, to Jesus himself and his teachings, to the plan of salvation, to Gods sexual design, to
make changes to the law, to put a heavy yoke on close followers Christians, to
make age of grace harder then the age of law, to make adultery about sex and
not about betrayal, and many more things. You can not overlook any context and
come up with the correct meaning to the text. these verses were pointed to his enemies
and not his friends. Matt 5:28 is more about a man seeking to
steal another man’s wife from himself so he can have her as his wife. These verses were spoken
to Jesus Enemies and not his close friends. It is very important to understand why that
is important to know. Without understand this you will totally take the Sermon
on the Mount out of context. Most of the Sermon on the Mount should be
treated like a parable to Jesus
enemies, because a lot of it was spoken
to his enemies and not meant for his close follows. But many people
ignore that very important context and come up with wrong conclusions of the
Sermon on the Mount. Rightly divide scripture. Rom 12:1-2 Divide what apply to you and
what applies to Jesus enemies. When Jesus spoke to his
enemies, he spoke one way, when he
spoke to his close followers, he spoke
a different way. Very important to understand
this differences. If this is not correctly applied to Jesus saying then they
can be misunderstood and taken out of context and come up with the wrong
conclusions. If it is not 100% clear who Jesus is talking to then you can not
know the correct context of the text. You need to know very clearly who Jesus
is talking to so you have it in context. Very important verse to
understand. Jesus talks one way to his
followers and another way to his enemies. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/rightlydiv.html
Mt 23: 4 For they bind heavy
burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they
themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5 But all their works
they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, F43 and
enlarge the borders of their garments, 6 And love the uppermost rooms at
feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, 7 And greetings in the markets,
and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi…. 13 But woe unto you, scribes
and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go
in. 14 Woe unto you, scribes and
Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make
long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 15 Woe unto you,
scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one
proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than
yourselves 30 And say, If we had been
in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the
blood of the prophets. 31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye
are the children of them which killed the prophets. 32 Fill ye up then the
measure of your fathers. 33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye
escape the damnation of hell? Read the rest of Matt 23 to
understand Jesus feeling about his enemies. Jesus purpose talking to the
close followers Jesus purpose talking to the
close followers was the opposite, to know the mystery of the kingdom of God to
explain truth, remove confusion, not one up men ship, help them to understand
in him they are worthy of heaven. He gave comfort and hope. He said my yoke is
easy. He tried to help them understand, like a shepherd to his helpless sheep.
Jesus had love for them. Mt 11:30 - For my yoke is
easy, and my burden is light. (to
Christians, not to Jesus enemies) This context must be apply
to all Jesus sayings, to put all Jesus
saying in proper context. If Jesus saying to his enemies should be basically
N/A to Christians unless they are clearly explained to his disciples afterwards, to remove any confusion or misunderstanding
of what was said. If not then a wrong conclusion may be the results. The
disciples knew Mark 4:11 that Jesus
words to his enemies may be not for them, but unto them (Jesus enemies)
that are without, all these things are done in parables: 12 That seeing
they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand;
lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven
them. Many people totally ignore
or are ignorance of this very important context of Jesus sayings. Many think if
Jesus say it then it must apply to all Christians. This is not true. To who and
why did Jesus say what he said. Many end up tried to apply something to
Christians, which were for Jesus
enemies and not to Christians at all. The Sermon on the Mount is
a great example of this. The
first 15 verses, are full of mercy and
grace and my yoke is easy message, they
were spoken to Jesus close 12 disciples, but the most of rest of it is
spoken the outsiders (make their yoke very hard, confound, confuse, one up man
ship) similar to the parables. Or we are not 100% sure who he spoke it to. By
not knowing this we come up with wrong conclusions. We must know who he is
talking to enemies or friend before we can come up with correct conclusions. Sermon on the Mount, at first was only to the 12 disciples that followed Jesus to have a private meeting,
but instead of a private meeting, Jesus enemies wanted to spy on them and they
also followed. At the end of the Sermon there were thousands of outsides (many
were Jesus enemies) on the hill. Sermon on the Mount, but
only a few could hear Jesus at any given time, so Jesus had to be walking around speaking out loud to different
groups or individuals. But this is not clear we don’t have the explanation to
the close disciples afterward to explain it so we can clearly understand it and
what and how it apply to Christians. The 12 disciples saw who
Jesus was speaking to, we do not know what they saw. Was it friend or enemies? So with out this clear
explanation, we will be misunderstanding of it. Remember the purpose for Jesus
talking to the enemies was to “, but
unto them (many were Jesus enemies)
that are without, all these things are done in parables: 12 that seeing
they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand;
lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven
them. Mark 4:11 applies to the
rest of the Sermon on the Mount. I have heard some Christians
having a nervous breakdown trying to follow the Sermon on the Mount as best
they could. I know some have committed suicide because of the Sermon on the
Mount. They misunderstand most of the
Sermon was to outsiders and not to 12 disciples or Christians. Jesus purpose was to make
his enemies have a harder yoke to follower. To Christians, Jesus said my yoke is
easy. To his enemies, the way of the wicked is
hard. Some misunderstood Christians, are trying to do the opposite, they are
putting heavy yoke meant for the outsiders, onto Christian, just like the leaders of Hebrews during
Jesus times putting heavy burden on the people. This may cause depression, lost
of Joy of the Lord, a defeated attitude as a Christian, may even lead to
suicide. Jesus said MT 11:30 my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. . Jesus said, Jn 10:10 The thief's (Satan or
Jesus enemies) purpose is to steal and kill and destroy. My (Jesus) purpose is
to give life in all its fullness ( or more abundant). Mark 4 And when he was alone, they
that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.11 And he
said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: 12 That
seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not
understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be
forgiven them. Mt 13:34 All these things spake
Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto
them: Mr 4:34 But without a parable
spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to
his disciples. Lu 8:4 And when much people were
gathered together, and were come to him out of every city, he spake by a parable:
Lu 12:41 Then Peter said unto him,
Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? Lu 18:9 And he spake this parable
unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised
others: Lu 20:19 And the chief priests and
the scribes the same hour sought to lay hands on him; and they feared the
people: for they perceived that he had spoken this parable against them. Joh 10:6 This parable spake Jesus
unto them: but they understood not what things they were which he spake unto
them. If you only take these
verses at face value, out of context,
then they are major contradiction to many things, to Jesus himself and
his teachings, to the plan of
salvation, to Gods sexual design, to make changes to the law, to put a heavy
yoke on Christians, to make age of grace harder then the age of law, to make
adultery about sex and not about betrayal, and many more things. You can not
overlook any context and come up with the correct meaning to the text. Matthew 5:28 totally taken out of context. Normal healthy loving
sexual desire and sexual fantasies are not evil. They are a very important part
of God's sexual designed. If you use wrong definitions and the wrong kind of desire and do not remember that
adultery was more about betrayal then it was about sex, then you can come up
with wrong conclusions and make this sound like a major contradiction to Gods
sexual design for the human male. What was adultery in the Bible days? Essenes language in the
Sermon on the Mount. http://www.askwhy.co.uk/christianity/0410SermonRenewal.html
Adultery? What is adultery
in the Bible and what is not adultery. You may be surprise. Men in the Bible
had a lot of sex with many women in the Bible. Is adultery about sex or is it
less about sex and more about betrayal. What are the different Bible
definitions? http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/adultdefine.html http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/adultery.html
The way these verses are
taught today, they become a major
contradiction. Then Matthew 5: 28-32 becomes a major contradiction to Gods
sexual design and condemns all males with a normal, healthy, God given, loving,
sex drive, which includes all the great men of God in the Bible and today. Matthew 5: 29-30 Taken out of context, these
verses become a major contradiction to the plan of salvation. Do we get to
heaven by cutting off our hands and plucking out our eyes? No way. Do we avoid hell by cutting off our hand and
plucking out our eyes? No way. Do you real think Jesus was telling his humble
followers to cut off their hands? No way. People totally misunderstand these verses
and totally take them out of context and come up with totally wrong conclusion.
What is the context? Who is
Jesus talking to? Follows or to his enemies?
Why did Jesus say it? To totally contradiction Gods sexual design of
human nature and condemn every male human on earth, and to contradiction the
plan of salvation and change it from grace to works? Totally misunderstand if thats what you think and have been
taught. Do you think these verses
were not to his close humble followers, seeking truth, with an open heart? Or
were they spoken to hardhearted,
know-it-all, holies-then-thou Pharisees type enemies of Jesus? Do not these
sound more like these verses go along with Matthew 6:16 where Jesus enemies
would disfigure their faces when they fasted? They would also cut them selves
to let open any evil spirits. They would beat themselves up and abuse their
bodies. So maybe is that why Jesus said, cut off your hands and pluck out you
eyes? Maybe to put on a show in front of the enemy and act like he is teaching
his disciples to be Pharisees. Maybe this was for show to
the enemy of Jesus. Or maybe Jesus was walking around talking to different
people groups in the open air meeting of a mixed crowd of friends and enemies. A mixed crowd of holier-then-thou Pharisees and humble close
followers. Does these verses go against, love your
neighbor, as you love yourselves?
Christians do not have to cut off their body parts to cancel their sins. Jesus
paid for 100% of all their sins on the cross. Christians do not have to
disfigure their faces and cut themselves and beat them selves up. Their sins
are 100% forgive by Christ. Non-Christian still are
holding on to their entire heavy burden sins, trying to earn their way to
heaven. They think they can earn
heaven, so Jesus goes along with them and adds to their heavy load and makes
their burden heavier. The one up man ship ideal. As if to say why not make the
load heavier until you come to you senses and realize you can not do it. Jesus says the way of the wick is hard. but
also says, come all you heavy laden and heavy burden and I give you rest. My
yoke is easy. You have to look at the
setting and context. Its very important to know whom Jesus is talking to, and
the proper context. Jesus was in the enemies
territory with his disciples. He is
in a great crowd of both humble followers and know-it-all enemies, so to get
away he runs up the hill to the top of the mount. The disciples seeing what he is doing, so they leave the crowd
and follow Jesus. Mt 5:1-16 was to his
very close loving humble followers, then the crowd caught up to them and maybe
wanted to bud in and listen in on the private meeting Jesus was having with the
Disciples and very close followers. Maybe Jesus had to totally change his
speech to confront his enemies that he was surround by. Can you see that Matthew 5: 1-16 was done in
a soft loving voice to his humble loving followers? But can you see him raise his voice much louder as the
enemies was coming closer to hear what he is teaching his disciples and close
followers. Have you not ever been in a conversation with a
close friend, talking softly and then someone comes over to you and you do not
want them to listen to your private conversation, so with out telling your friend, you totally start
talking about another subject to prevent the unwant person to catch on what you
were talking about all along and when they leaves you go back to talking about
what you were before? But this it
become very clear to your friend what you are doing and they just go along with
you to get rid of the other person who is budding in on your private
conversation. Is this what is happening on the Sermon on the Mount? Is Part of, Matthew 5:17 ++ and after, to his enemies that were budding in on their
private conversation? Just look at the sharp contrast between 5:1 to 5:16 and
with 5:17 to 6:16 and then it seems as if Jesus is transisioning back to
talking to his close humble followers again. The Disciples would have seen the
enemies come and know that Jesus was talking hard core at them and then they had
enough of this hard core talk, so they leave and Jesus softens up again and is
talking softly again to his close followers.
Most all the time Jesus talked softly to humble, seeking, open hearted,
loving, followers and very hard core, demanding, to his prideful know-it-all,
holier-then-thou enemy who thinks they can work their way to heaven by
themselves. Jesus said he did not
come to change the law but to fulfill it. These verses change the law of old. So is Jesus contradiction that
statement, that he did not come to change the law? No way. In the law does it
say, if you look at a women that you are an adulterer? Mt 5:28 is a major
contradiction to the old law, he change the law. Would Jesus contradict himself? No way. But people take these verses out of context and make Jesus
contradict his own words. Jesus got anger. So if you take these verses out of context, then
you can conclude Jesus is a murder because he got angry. Does that make any
sense to you? The Atheist have a great
time with this because of the faulty thinking of Church people. Matthew 5:17 to Mat 6:16 or so were mostly
Jesus put on a show for the Pharisees that are budding in on the private talk he wanted to have with the close followers. Most of
these verses go against everything Jesus taught and are contradict many other
things. We were not there to see
whom Jesus was talking to. But Jesus did not talk to his humble follower this
way, but, he spoke very hard to his enemy. Read all the Gospel to see how he
talked to his humble followers and how
he talked to his enemies. You will see what I am talking about. Even Peter when he was
full of pride, Jesus said, get behind me Satan. To the
prideful Rich man, he talked very hard and put a heavy load on him, by saying,
to be perfect, go sell everything and give it to the poor and come follow me.
But to humble follower, he says, Blessed are you this and that, giving
wonderful blessing on them. When the 70 followers
went out to witness for Jesus and they
meet prideful people who rejected Jesus
teachings, they were to turn there back on them and knock the dust off their
feet. There are many more examples of this in the Gospels. Can you see
that Jesus spoke softly and lovingly to humble followers seeking truth with a
open heart, but was very hard core on prideful, rebellious, know-it-all,
Pharisees type people? The Sermon on the Mount had both types of people, that
is why it is kind of mixed up like it
is. One time he is talking to prideful know-it-alls Pharisees type and another
time he is softly speaking to humble followers, with out any explanation to us,
to whom he is speaking to and we are
trying to figure it out. But you have to leave it in consistent context of the
Bible times, Gospel times, he being surround by his enemy, it was not his time to go to the cross, and context of how Jesus
talked to the different people. I feel the Sermon on the
Mount is greatly misunderstood and taken out of proper context. Context totally
changes the verse. But with out the correct context and proper understanding
you could make it say something totally incorrect and contradict God’s creation
design of human nature. God designed men to look
at and chase after women and want to have sex with them. This is healthy and
normal for all men. This is God's design. God designed normal healthy lusty
sex. We just need to apply the ?law of love? to it. If
a person (using the Gnostic Heresy) assumes sex is evil and that sexual lust is evil and adultery is about
sex and not about betrayal, Then you will conclude that Matthew 5:28 sexual
lust is adultery and a later verse adulterer don?t go to heaven, so anyone with
sexual lust don?t go to heaven. Just like it hard or
impossible for a rich man to go to heaven. And when you compare the rich man’s
wealth of the Bible times to todays
standard, then you would conclude that all Americans are in the rich man’s class and will not go to heaven. This is
same kind of faulty logic being use today in some Churches. Also with the same faulty
logic, Matthew 5:28-30 you would have everyone cut off their hands and pluck
out their eyes. Also in Matt. 5 it says if you are angry
you are guilty of murder. So everyone gets angry so everyone is a murderer.
Jesus got angry, so is Jesus a murderer? So with this faulty logic and taking
verses out of proper context and misunderstanding what Jesus was doing their,
then we are all adulterer, rich men, murderers, missing both feet, hands, eyes,
and not going to heaven because of anger, lust and trying to live in America. Do you think maybe we have a
misunderstanding of what was going on there? Do you think we don?t have all the
facts? Did Jesus mean to have a major contradiction to his sexual design? Do
you think Jesus is trying to put a major hard yoke on Christians when Jesus
said, ?My yoke is easy?. Do you think Jesus was putting a hard yoke on
Christian then the law was to the Jewish people? I think we need to look
deeper into the context to understand what is going on here and not go around
condemning God designed loving sexual lust, which God designed and said it was
very good. First of all you must remember that they
are still living under the Law not Grace. Age of grace did not start until
after Christ death. The Gospels writing are all under the law. Jesus lived under
the Age of Law. Jesus at one time would be
telling the Disciples or followers about Grace, and another time he would be
telling the outsiders or unbelievers about the law. He would talk one way to believers and totally
different way to nonbelievers. To nonbelievers----You have to be perfect to get
to heaven. 100% sinless in God eyes. This was under the Law to nonbelievers. To
believers he said," Bless are you... ". Many of these standards only
Christ himself could do. His "earthy" father was the Holy Spirit and
earthy mother was Mary. These verses were not spoken
to Christians but to non-believers who were trusting in there own works to get
themselves to heaven and Jesus was doing an ?I call you and I raise you?. A one
?upmanship? ideal. Look at the situation and
setting, first it was Jesus and his Disciple and Jesus was talking to his
disciples and close followers first part of the sermon is full of grace, "
Bless are you... ". than switches to more under law as he started drawing
a crowd of many types of people. Some believers and many unbelievers also. You can see the sermon
change from point to point as if he is moving around talking to different
unbeliever people or people groups at different times. Jesus spoke with great authority because
Jesus could look into people's hearts and know their motives and talked
directly to them about it. I feel
that Mt 5:27-32 Jesus was talking to a unbeliever man under the law or a small
group of unbeliever men who were plotting to steal and take another men's property,
his wife or wives to be their own. They were looking to steal a wife, so when
they looked at a wife their lust was to steal her for their own wife. Not a
sexual thing. Do you real think the disciple?s goal was to steal another men's
wives??? Jesus was talking to nonbelievers not followers. Jesus had no PA
system so he had to move around and talk to small groups. We were not there to see it. If we were
there to see what was going on we would understand it and come away with
different conclusions and with a proper understanding of the context. Sometimes things don?t get explained all the way so we can totally
and clearly understand and come up with the right conclusions. Jesus was under attack by
non-believers. Jesus deals with the
attacker this way to confuse or over whelm his attacker. We see this kind of
action in other places in the Gospel when Jesus talks to non-believes, who was
against him and his teachings. We should not go condemn
every human on earth that has a normal healthy God designed sex drive without
having all the detailed facts of what was going on. We should accept the fact
we don?t have all the facts. We have a clear example of
sexy lustful thoughts and actions in the Song of
Solomon and in Esther and Rehab and King David life, where they enjoyed their sexual lust and sexy life
and David was still a man after God own heart. Esther saves the Jewish nation.
Solomon built the temple and made the Jewish nation powerful. The prostitute,
Rehab, saved the spies and helps the Jewish people enter the promise land.
Samson was full of the Holy Spirit before and after being with a prostitute and
Delilah and the Holy Spirit left him when they cut his hair. God was not hung
up over their sexy, lusty sexuality. Also if God was hung up
with sexuality he would give a lot of sex rules to Adam and Eve and not waited
for hundred of years. The sex rules
were to solve special problem with a special situation at a special time under
law. We are under one law, the
law of love. Out of the hearts comes the
sin, not the eyes. Jesus would have seen their
heart’s desire was to steal a wife. Just because a man sees an
attractive wife and thinks she is sexy, does not mean his hearts desire is to
steal her from her husband and marry her to be his own wife. He is only
admiring the beauty of God’s creation. Mk 7: 14 And he called the
people to him again, and said to them, "Hear me, all of you, and
understand: 15there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile
him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him." 16 17And
when he had entered the house, and left the people, his disciples asked him
about the parable. 18And he said to them, "Then are you also without
understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot
defile him, 19since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes
on?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.) 20And he said, "What comes
out of a man is what defiles a man. 21For from within, out of the heart of man,
come evil thoughts, fornication, theft, murder, adultery, 22coveting,
wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. 23All
these evil things come from within, and they defile a man." Outdoors, open-air
meetings with a mixed audience are very much different then your average church
meeting. An open air meeting with
out a PA system may force a speaker to move around as he is speaking. Also
there may be unfriendly people who oppose your cause who Jesus may have wanted
to talk to direct. This would go along with the story of the nonbeliever rich man who
came to Jesus and asked how to get to heaven. Jesus told him to sell everything
and give it to the poor. But he explained it afterward to his believing
disciple to clarify what he was getting at. If that explaining part were
missing we would misunderstand and make
a new doctrine about how to get to heaven that would require you to sell all
your things and give them to the poor. I think we are missing Jesus explaining to the disciple after the
Sermon on the Mount. But the disciple could see Jesus moving around talking at
different people and they understood. When the disciples asked
Jesus about the comment, " rich man and that it is easier for a camel to
go though an eye of a needle then for a rich men to enter heaven," the
answer was it is impossible, but with God all thing are possible." Without
the additional explaining, we also may have misunderstood. Mark 10:25
(English-NIV) It is easier for a camel
to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of
God." If we were in the crowd it
would be much clearer what Jesus was doing and why. If we had Jesus explaining
the sermon to his disciple afterward, it would be more understood. He was not
talking to the average person who sees beautiful women and admires her physical
beauty and is attracted to her. This is normal for every red hot-blooded male
on earth. This is Gods design of Godly human nature The purpose of the law was
to show that it is impossible to keep. That only Jesus could keep it and be our
savior. We now live under the Age of Grace not Law. Jesus said he did not come to change the law but to fulfill the
law. The only new law he came up with was the Law of love. Also the whole law
was fulfilled in the law of love. Jesus goal was not to change
the Godly design of sexuality. He did not mean to condemn ever man for having
sexual desires or to make all men feel guilty of adultery just for looking and
lusting after women, which is health and normal and part of God?s sexual design
for us. Just study the OT of the
Bible it has many areas that have men lusting after women and wanting them for
sex and this is not evil. This is God's design. Study King David a man after
God's own heart lusted after many women but only committed adultery one time by
taking another man's wife and had the man killed. Dave did this only one time
and God punished him for it. Dave lusted after many women and had many wives
and concubines and a high sex drive and was not adultery for looking at women. Solomon lusted after many
women and was not an adulterer. He
had 1000 women for himself. Do you think he lusted after any women? Read the
Song of Solomon, he was sexually lust after those women for sure. Look at Song of Solomon, it
is about a women with 2 lovers and a lot of healthy sexual lusting go on and it
is not evil but healthy and normal and God's design. Esther entered a beauty
and sex contest and she won. She was the sexiest in bed with the king. Also part of her job, a queen was to do sexy dance
for visitors. Esther was not evil, nor bad for doing sexy dances for visitors.
God used her to save the Jewish people from total destruction. The 2 spies when to Rehab,
the prostitute's house to stay and have sex with her for a few days, and she saved them and she was greatly honored by
them and God. She and her family were the only one that was not killed. She was
not evil or bad. For more info check out
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is normal and fun. We do a lot of "Make believe" with children and do
not feel this is a sin. We watch TV and
most all of that is "Make believe". People read fiction books and
others stories and don't think it is a sin. Many people have many Fantasies and
Imaginations that they feel are not sins. Many feel if they have sexual
Fantasies and Imaginations about their marriage partner that this is not a sin. But if you have sexual
Fantasies or Imaginations or "Make believe" about someone who is not
your spouse, than you are doing a major sin. They will go back to Mt. 5:28
(Sermon on the Mount) and show that you are an adulator. It seems like one verse has
become a major doctrine about sexual "Make believe", condemning all
male. I feel this verse is greatly misunderstood and taken out of proper
context as a result coming up with wrong conclusions. Healthy sexual desire lust
Vs "lust" If there where zero amount of healthy "sexual lust" or
"sexual desire" most would not get married. Remember how it was
before puberty? Boys did not want anything to do with girls and girls did not
want anything to do with boys. Then puberty hit and what happen? Many changes,
and one of those was a healthy attraction for the opposite sex. Why, because of
the Gift of God ---sexuality at puberty. Where is the balance? What
is health and normal? What is not healthy or normal? What is sin and not sin? There are many Bible verses
that talk about lust and some are misused just to unfairly attack sexuality and
over look other "fruit of the flesh" as being of lesser importances.
There are many types of fleshly lust. You could almost make everything you do
some kind of lust of the flesh. God created us as human beings, not as perfect
gods. There are normal and healthy human desires and wants. Then there is the sin nature
with in us that is unkind, unloving, esteeming self over others, self pride,
want to meet only our needs not others needs, greed, and not giving God the
glory and praise for all things. Ephesians 5: 28 So husbands ought also to
love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves
himself; 29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes
it, just as Christ also does the church, 30 because we are members of His body. Mark 12:31 (English-RSV) The second is this, 'You
shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater
than these." Nourishes and cherishes the
body. How do we do this? What is healthy and benefits the body. Review the 50 benefits of
masturbation with no negative side effects. The past lies have been exposed. If you condemn sexual lust
and sexual fantasies and sexual desires you are condemning God?s design of
sexuality. If you condemn sexual lust
and sexual fantasies and sexual desires you are condemning Gods design of
sexuality. One major concern about sexuality for Christians
is sexual lust. They feel that
according to Matt. 5:28 that if you lust after a women you commit adultery. So
sexual lust is a big concern. I feel that Matt 5:28-30 is
greatly misunderstood and greatly taken out of context. Major contradiction-- verse
used by anti-nudist people. Matt. 5:28 is totally misunderstood and taken out
of context. look at a women with lust...adultery
http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/Lustmt528.html God designed every detail of
our sexuality and said it was very good.
An important part of God?s design is sexual lust and sexual
fantasies. If a person could remove
100% sexual lust and sexual fantasies then God?s sexual design would not work.
Without sexual lust and sexual fantasies and sexual desires, sexual hormones
then there would be no babies and the human race would disappear from the
earth. Look at the strong sex drive God designed into animals. Do you condemn
animal for acting the way God designed them to act? Why do you condemn humans? God designed humans with a strong sex
drive also. What list of sex rules did he give Adam and Eve? Before puberty most children
have little or no sexual fantasies or sexual lust. Most sexual lust and sexual
fantasies and sexual desires, sexual hormones takes place after puberty. Before
puberty guys mostly played with guys and girls play with girl and call the
opposite sex names. Then after puberty
and increase sex hormones then boys chase after girls and girls chase after
boys. And there is a great increase in sexual lust, sexual fantasies, sexual
desires, sexual hormones and boys want to have sex with girls and girl want to
have sex with boys. This is God design, not our design but God?s. God gave us
strong sex drive for many reasons. This is God?s design so don?t condemn it. We
need to apply the law of love to it. Do not just read one Bible
verse (Matt 5:28) and make your conclusion about human sexual lust, which many
do. Look at Song of Solomon and
all the sexual lust and they are not married.
Look at all the sexual lust in all the Bible and that is not condemned.
Jesus did not come to make changes to sexuality other then the law of
love. He did not come to condemn every
one of God design sexual lust and sexual fantasies. The Sermon on the Mount has
be great misunderstood and has brought much legalism into the Church. If God
had a major hang up with our sexuality he would have given Adam and Eve a long
list of sex rules. He did not. Lust is greatly
misunderstood and misused by people. They forget God designed it and said it
was good. We need to apply the law of love to it. We should not go around with
a holier-then-thou attitude about sexual lust, sexual fantasies, sexual desires condemn all we see. Sexual lust is not evil.
Evil lust is evil. Lust to murder. Lust to steal. Lust to lie. Lust to hurt
someone. Lust to hate. Sexual lust, sexual
fantasies, and sexual desires are not
evil, they are God?s design. King David and Solomon and many others Godly
leaders, had a lot of lust for women and nothing wrong with that. Don?t call Gods design
evil. Look at some of these web sites. Take a look at some very
sexy verses from the Song of Song. Song of Songs is a very sexy and lusty book
in the Bible which most preaches avoid or if they read it they change it all
around to try to make it mean something else. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/sos.html
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http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/fantasies.html http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/lustgal5.html http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/maforumreply.html Rebuttal of Sermon on the Mount--Author sees a lot of Essenes language in the
Sermon on the Mount.
http://www.askwhy.co.uk/christianity/0410SermonRenewal.html LUST The natural desire for
sexual variety has absolutely nothing to do with "lust" as most
assume it to mean. Lust is only wrong if it is the selfish desire to take
something from another. Lust is wrong if it is about greed and self
satisfaction at the expense of another. But there is nothing whatsoever wrong
with mutually desired loving intimacy and enjoying sexual variety. http://www.libchrist.com/bible/lust.html Math 5:27-28: An
interpretation of this passage is that if you look at the Greek verb (lust more
properly translated covet or desire), is the same word used in the Septuagint's
translation of the 10th Commandment (not covet). In this case, Matthew has
Jesus saying that covetousness, the desire to deprive another of his property,
is the essence of adultery. Jesus was then reaffirming a quite traditional
understanding of what is wrong with adultery. http://www.libchrist.com/bible/lust.html Biblical Discussion of
Adultery It is clear scripture itself
has no prohibition against singles sex, only what has been added by Church
tradition. Adultery is more complex. The Jews understood "Thou shalt not
commit adultery" very differently than Church tradition. It only applied
to men if they had intercourse with someone else's wife. But it was allowable
for a married man to have intercourse with a single woman. Adultery was the sin
of "trespassing" on a man's property. Until marriage women were the
property of their fathers. After marriage they became the property of their
husband. http://www.libchrist.com/bible/adultery.html For more do a search
on---"Rebuttal on the Sermon on the Mount" When we come to the New
Testament Jesus defines what true law
keeping is in his sermon on the mount. The sermon on the mount in Matthew
chapter 5 was not meant to be the “golden rule” for Christian ethics for today.
Yet many think we need to obey this sermon for salvation when it was actually a
rebuttal against Pharisaic Judaism. http://www.letusreason.org/current2.htm
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a sin that will damn the soul to hell-fire. http://home.earthlink.net/~thogmi/jack/jack.html Lust in the Bible is not
masturbation. This addendum on
"lust" is added for our many unlearned Bible students, and Pastors
teaching that masturbation is construed as "lust." The explanations
of "lust" are elucidated very clearly in the Holy Bible. Not one scripture using the word
"lust" or any other scripture refers to masturbation. http://home.earthlink.net/~thogmi/jack/jack.html They put sin in the
definition of the word lust. So if you ask if lust is a sin, it is because they
put sin in the definition. Two translation of the Bible do not use the word
lust for that reason. Instead they use "sinful desire" in place of
the word " lust". If you only take these verses at face value, out of context, then they are major contradiction to many things, to Jesus himself and his teachings, to the plan of salvation, to Gods sexual design, to make changes to the law, to put a heavy yoke on Christians, to make age of grace harder then the age of law, to make adultery about sex and not about betrayal, and many more things. You can not overlook any context and come up with the correct meaning to the text. Essenes language in the Sermon on the Mount. http://www.askwhy.co.uk/christianity/0410SermonRenewal.html Adultery? What is adultery in the Bible and what is not adultery. You may be surprise. Men in the Bible had a lot of sex with many women in the Bible. Is adultery about sex or is it less about sex and more about betrayal. What are the different Bible definitions? http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/adultdefine.html http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/adultery.html The way these verses are taught today, they become a major contradiction. Then Matthew 5: 28 becomes a major contradiction to Gods sexual design and condemns all males with a normal, healthy, God given, loving, sex drive, which includes all the great men of God in the Bible and today. Matthew 5: 29-30 Taken out of context, these verses become a major contradiction to the plan of salvation. Do we get to heaven by cutting off our hands and plucking out our eyes? No way. Do we avoid hell by cutting off our hand and plucking out our eyes? No way. Do you real think Jesus was telling his humble followers to cut off their hands? No way. People totally misunderstand these verses and totally take them out of context and come up with totally wrong conclusion. What is the context? Who is Jesus talking to? Follows or to his enemies? Why did Jesus say it? To totally contradiction Gods sexual design of human nature and condemn every male human on earth, and to contradiction the plan of salvation and change it from grace to works? Totally misunderstand if thats what you think and have been taught. Do you think these verses were not to his close humble followers, seeking truth, with an open heart? Or were they spoken to hardhearted, know-it-all, holies-then-thou Pharisees type enemies of Jesus? Do not these sound more like these verses go along with Matthew 6:16 where Jesus enemies would disfigure their faces when they fasted? They would also cut them selves to let open any evil spirits. They would beat themselves up and abuse their bodies. So maybe is that why Jesus said, cut off your hands and pluck out you eyes? Maybe to put on a show in front of the enemy and act like he is teaching his disciples to be Pharisees. Maybe this was for show to the enemy of Jesus. Or maybe Jesus was walking around talking to different people groups in the open air meeting of a mixed crowd of friends and enemies. A mixed crowd of holier-then-thou Pharisees and humble close followers. Does these verses go against, love your neighbor, as you love yourselves? Christians do not have to cut off their body parts to cancel their sins. Jesus paid for 100% of all their sins on the cross. Christians do not have to disfigure their faces and cut themselves and beat them selves up. Their sins are 100% forgive by Christ. Non-Christian still are holding on to their entire heavy burden sins, trying to earn their way to heaven. They think they can earn heaven, so Jesus goes along with them and adds to their heavy load and makes their burden heavier. The one up man ship ideal. As if to say why not make the load heavier until you come to you senses and realize you can not do it. Jesus says the way of the wick is hard. but also says, come all you heavy laden and heavy burden and I give you rest. My yoke is easy. You have to look at the setting and context. Its very important to know whom Jesus is talking to, and the proper context. Jesus was in the enemies territory with his disciples. He is in a great crowd of both humble followers and know-it-all enemies, so to get away he runs up the hill to the top of the mount. The disciples seeing what he is doing, so they leave the crowd and follow Jesus. Mt 5:1-16 was to his very close loving humble followers, then the crowd caught up to them and maybe wanted to bud in and listen in on the private meeting Jesus was having with the Disciples and very close followers. Maybe Jesus had to totally change his speech to confront his enemies that he was surround by. Can you see that Matthew 5: 1-16 was done in a soft loving voice to his humble loving followers? But can you see him raise his voice much louder as the enemies was coming closer to hear what he is teaching his disciples and close followers. Have you not ever been in a conversation with a close friend, talking softly and then someone comes over to you and you do not want them to listen to your private conversation, so with out telling your friend, you totally start talking about another subject to prevent the unwant person to catch on what you were talking about all along and when they leaves you go back to talking about what you were before? But this it become very clear to your friend what you are doing and they just go along with you to get rid of the other person who is budding in on your private conversation. Is this what is happening on the Sermon on the Mount? Is Part of, Matthew 5:17 ++ and after, to his enemies that were budding in on their private conversation? Just look at the sharp contrast between 5:1 to 5:16 and with 5:17 to 6:16 and then it seems as if Jesus is transisioning back to talking to his close humble followers again. The Disciples would have seen the enemies come and know that Jesus was talking hard core at them and then they had enough of this hard core talk, so they leave and Jesus softens up again and is talking softly again to his close followers. Most all the time Jesus talked softly to humble, seeking, open hearted, loving, followers and very hard core, demanding, to his prideful know-it-all, holier-then-thou enemy who thinks they can work their way to heaven by themselves. Jesus said he did not come to change the law but to fulfill it. These verses change the law of old. So is Jesus contradiction that statement, that he did not come to change the law? No way. In the law does it say, if you look at a women that you are an adulterer? Mt 5:28 is a major contradiction to the old law, he change the law. Would Jesus contradict himself? No way. But people take these verses out of context and make Jesus contradict his own words. Jesus got anger. So if you take these verses out of context, then you can conclude Jesus is a murder because he got angry. Does that make any sense to you? The Atheist have a great time with this because of the faulty thinking of Church people. Matthew 5:17 to Mat 6:16 or so were mostly Jesus put on a show for the Pharisees that are budding in on the private talk he wanted to have with the close followers. Most of these verses go against everything Jesus taught and are contradict many other things. We were not there to see whom Jesus was talking to. But Jesus did not talk to his humble follower this way, but, he spoke very hard to his enemy. Read all the Gospel to see how he talked to his humble followers and how he talked to his enemies. You will see what I am talking about. Even Peter when he was full of pride, Jesus said, get behind me satan. To the prideful Rich man, he talked very hard and put a heavy load on him, by saying, to be perfect, go sell everything and give it to the poor and come follow me. But to humble follower, he says, Blessed are you this and that, giving wonderful blessing on them. When the 70 followers went out to witness for Jesus and they meet prideful people who rejected Jesus teachings, they were to turn there back on them and knock the dust off their feet. There are many more examples of this in the Gospels. Can you see that Jesus spoke softly and lovingly to humble followers seeking truth with a open heart, but was very hard core on prideful, rebellious, know-it-all, Pharisees type people? The Sermon on the Mount had both types of people, that is why it is kind of mixed up like it is. One time he is talking to prideful know-it-alls Pharisees type and another time he is softly speaking to humble followers, with out any explanation to us, to whom he is speaking to and we are trying to figure it out. But you have to leave it in consistent context of the Bible times, Gospel times, he being surround by his enemy, it was not his time to go to the cross, and context of how Jesus talked to the different people. If you only take these verses at face value, out of context, then they are major contradiction to many things, to Jesus himself and his teachings, to the plan of salvation, to Gods sexual design, to make changes to the law, to put a heavy yoke on Christians, to make age of grace harder then the age of law, and many more things. You can not overlook any context and come up with the correct meaning to the text. I feel the Sermon on the Mount is greatly misunderstood and taken out of proper context. Context totally changes the verse. But with out the correct context and proper understanding you could make it say something totally incorrect and contradict God?s creation design of human nature. God designed men to look at and chase after women and want to have sex with them. This is healthy and normal for all men. This is God's design. God designed normal healthy lusty sex. We just need to apply the ?law of love? to it. If a person (using the Gnostic Heresy) assumes sex is evil and that sexual lust is evil and adultery is about sex and not about betrayal, Then you will conclude that Matthew 5:28 sexual lust is adultery and a later verse adulterer don?t go to heaven, so anyone with sexual lust don?t go to heaven. Just like it hard or impossible for a rich man to go to heaven. And when you compare the rich man?s wealth of the Bible times to todays standard, then you would conclude that all Americans are in the rich man?s class and will not go to heaven. This is same kind of faulty logic being use today in some Churches. Also with the same faulty logic, Matthew 5:28-30 you would have everyone cut off their hands and pluck out their eyes. Also in Matt. 5 it says if you are angry you are guilty of murder. So everyone gets angry so everyone is a murderer. Jesus got angry, so is Jesus a murderer? So with this faulty logic and taking verses out of proper context and misunderstanding what Jesus was doing their, then we are all adulterer, rich men, murderers, missing both feet, hands, eyes, and not going to heaven because of anger, lust and trying to live in America. Do you think maybe we have a misunderstanding of what was going on there? Do you think we don?t have all the facts? Did Jesus mean to have a major contradiction to his sexual design? Do you think Jesus is trying to put a major hard yoke on Christians when Jesus said, ?My yoke is easy?. Do you think Jesus was putting a hard yoke on Christian then the law was to the Jewish people? I think we need to look deeper into the context to understand what is going on here and not go around condemning God designed loving sexual lust, which God designed and said it was very good. First of all you must remember that they are still living under the Law not Grace. Age of grace did not start until after Christ death. The Gospels writing are all under the law. Jesus lived under the Age of Law. Jesus at one time would be telling the Disciples or followers about Grace, and another time he would be telling the outsiders or unbelievers about the law. He would talk one way to believers and totally different way to nonbelievers. To nonbelievers----You have to be perfect to get to heaven. 100% sinless in God eyes. This was under the Law to nonbelievers. To believers he said," Bless are you... ". Many of these standards only Christ himself could do. His "earthy" father was the Holy Spirit and earthy mother was Mary. These verses were not spoken to Christians but to non-believers who were trusting in there own works to get themselves to heaven and Jesus was doing an ?I call you and I raise you?. A one ?upmanship? ideal. Look at the situation and setting, first it was Jesus and his Disciple and Jesus was talking to his disciples and close followers first part of the sermon is full of grace, " Bless are you... ". than switches to more under law as he started drawing a crowd of many types of people. Some believers and many unbelievers also. You can see the sermon change from point to point as if he is moving around talking to different unbeliever people or people groups at different times. Jesus spoke with great authority because Jesus could look into people's hearts and know their motives and talked directly to them about it. I feel that Mt 5:27-32 Jesus was talking to a unbeliever man under the law or a small group of unbeliever men who were plotting to steal and take another men's property, his wife or wives to be their own. They were looking to steal a wife, so when they looked at a wife their lust was to steal her for their own wife. Not a sexual thing. Do you real think the disciple?s goal was to steal another men's wives??? Jesus was talking to nonbelievers not followers. Jesus had no PA system so he had to move around and talk to small groups. We were not there to see it. If we were there to see what was going on we would understand it and come away with different conclusions and with a proper understanding of the context.
Sometimes things don?t get explained all the way so we can totally and clearly understand and come up with the right conclusions.
Jesus was under attack by non-believers. Jesus deals with the attacker this way to confuse or over whelm his attacker. We see this kind of action in other places in the Gospel when Jesus talks to non-believes, who was against him and his teachings. We should not go condemn every human on earth that has a normal healthy God designed sex drive without having all the detailed facts of what was going on. We should accept the fact we don?t have all the facts. We have a clear example of sexy lustful thoughts and actions in the Song of Solomon and in Esther and Rehab and King David life, where they enjoyed their sexual lust and sexy life and David was still a man after God own heart. Esther saves the Jewish nation. Solomon built the temple and made the Jewish nation powerful. The prostitute, Rehab, saved the spies and helps the Jewish people enter the promise land. Samson was full of the Holy Spirit before and after being with a prostitute and Delilah and the Holy Spirit left him when they cut his hair. God was not hung up over their sexy, lusty sexuality. Also if God was hung up with sexuality he would give a lot of sex rules to Adam and Eve and not waited for hundred of years. The sex rules were to solve special problem with a special situation at a special time under law. We are under one law, the law of love. Out of the hearts comes the sin, not the eyes. Jesus would have seen their heart?s desire was to steal a wife. Just because a man sees an attractive wife and thinks she is sexy, does not mean his hearts desire is to steal her from her husband and marry her to be his own wife. He is only admiring the beauty of God?s creation. Mk 7: 14 And he called the people to him again, and said to them, "Hear me, all of you, and understand: 15there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him." 16 17And when he had entered the house, and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. 18And he said to them, "Then are you also without understanding? Do you not see that whatever goes into a man from outside cannot defile him, 19since it enters, not his heart but his stomach, and so passes on?" (Thus he declared all foods clean.) 20And he said, "What comes out of a man is what defiles a man. 21For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, fornication, theft, murder, adultery, 22coveting, wickedness, deceit, licentiousness, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. 23All these evil things come from within, and they defile a man." Outdoors, open-air meetings with a mixed audience are very much different then your average church meeting. An open air meeting with out a PA system may force a speaker to move around as he is speaking. Also there may be unfriendly people who oppose your cause who Jesus may have wanted to talk to direct. This would go along with the story of the nonbeliever rich man who came to Jesus and asked how to get to heaven. Jesus told him to sell everything and give it to the poor. But he explained it afterward to his believing disciple to clarify what he was getting at. If that explaining part were missing we would misunderstand and make a new doctrine about how to get to heaven that would require you to sell all your things and give them to the poor. I think we are missing Jesus explaining to the disciple after the Sermon on the Mount. But the disciple could see Jesus moving around talking at different people and they understood. When the disciples asked Jesus about the comment, " rich man and that it is easier for a camel to go though an eye of a needle then for a rich men to enter heaven," the answer was it is impossible, but with God all thing are possible." Without the additional explaining, we also may have misunderstood. Mark 10:25 (English-NIV) It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." If we were in the crowd it would be much clearer what Jesus was doing and why. If we had Jesus explaining the sermon to his disciple afterward, it would be more understood. He was not talking to the average person who sees beautiful women and admires her physical beauty and is attracted to her. This is normal for every red hot-blooded male on earth. This is Gods design of Godly human nature The purpose of the law was to show that it is impossible to keep. That only Jesus could keep it and be our savior. We now live under the Age of Grace not Law. Jesus said he did not come to change the law but to fulfill the law. The only new law he came up with was the Law of love. Also the whole law was fulfilled in the law of love. Jesus goal was not to change the Godly design of sexuality. He did not mean to condemn ever man for having sexual desires or to make all men feel guilty of adultery just for looking and lusting after women, which is health and normal and part of God?s sexual design for us. Just study the OT of the Bible it has many areas that have men lusting after women and wanting them for sex and this is not evil. This is God's design. Study King David a man after God's own heart lusted after many women but only committed adultery one time by taking another man's wife and had the man killed. Dave did this only one time and God punished him for it. Dave lusted after many women and had many wives and concubines and a high sex drive and was not adultery for looking at women.
Solomon lusted after many women and was not an adulterer. He had 1000 women for himself. Do you think he lusted after any women? Read the Song of Solomon, he was sexually lust after those women for sure. Look at Song of Solomon, it is about a women with 2 lovers and a lot of healthy sexual lusting go on and it is not evil but healthy and normal and God's design. Esther entered a beauty and sex contest and she won. She was the sexiest in bed with the king. Also part of her job, a queen was to do sexy dance for visitors. Esther was not evil, nor bad for doing sexy dances for visitors. God used her to save the Jewish people from total destruction. The 2 spies when to Rehab, the prostitute's house to stay and have sex with her for a few days, and she saved them and she was greatly honored by them and God. She and her family were the only one that was not killed. She was not evil or bad.
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Healthy sexual desire lust Vs "lust"
If there where zero amount of healthy "sexual lust" or "sexual desire" most would not get married. Remember how it was before puberty? Boys did not want anything to do with girls and girls did not want anything to do with boys. Then puberty hit and what happen? Many changes, and one of those was a healthy attraction for the opposite sex. Why, because of the Gift of God ---sexuality at puberty. Where is the balance? What is health and normal? What is not healthy or normal? What is sin and not sin? There are many Bible verses that talk about lust and some are misused just to unfairly attack sexuality and over look other "fruit of the flesh" as being of lesser importances. There are many types of fleshly lust. You could almost make everything you do some kind of lust of the flesh. God created us as human beings, not as perfect gods. There are normal and healthy human desires and wants. Then there is the sin nature with in us that is unkind, unloving, esteeming self over others, self pride, want to meet only our needs not others needs, greed, and not giving God the glory and praise for all things. Ephesians 5: 28 So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies. He who loves his own wife loves himself; 29 for no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as Christ also does the church, 30 because we are members of His body. Mark 12:31 (English-RSV) The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." Nourishes and cherishes the body. How do we do this? What is healthy and benefits the body. Review the 50 benefits of masturbation with no negative side effects. The past lies have been exposed. If you condemn sexual lust and sexual fantasies and sexual desires you are condemning God?s design of sexuality.
If you condemn sexual lust and sexual fantasies and sexual desires you are condemning Gods design of sexuality.
One major concern about sexuality for Christians is sexual lust. They feel that according to Matt. 5:28 that if you lust after a women you commit adultery. So sexual lust is a big concern.
I feel that Matt 5:28-30 is greatly misunderstood and greatly taken out of context.
Major contradiction-- verse used by anti-nudist people. Matt. 5:28 is totally misunderstood and taken out of context. look at a women with lust...adultery http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/Lustmt528.html
God designed every detail of our sexuality and said it was very good. An important part of God?s design is sexual lust and sexual fantasies. If a person could remove 100% sexual lust and sexual fantasies then God?s sexual design would not work. Without sexual lust and sexual fantasies and sexual desires, sexual hormones then there would be no babies and the human race would disappear from the earth. Look at the strong sex drive God designed into animals. Do you condemn animal for acting the way God designed them to act? Why do you condemn humans? God designed humans with a strong sex drive also. What list of sex rules did he give Adam and Eve?
Before puberty most children have little or no sexual fantasies or sexual lust. Most sexual lust and sexual fantasies and sexual desires, sexual hormones takes place after puberty. Before puberty guys mostly played with guys and girls play with girl and call the opposite sex names. Then after puberty and increase sex hormones then boys chase after girls and girls chase after boys. And there is a great increase in sexual lust, sexual fantasies, sexual desires, sexual hormones and boys want to have sex with girls and girl want to have sex with boys. This is God design, not our design but God?s. God gave us strong sex drive for many reasons. This is God?s design so don?t condemn it. We need to apply the law of love to it.
Do not just read one Bible verse (Matt 5:28) and make your conclusion about human sexual lust, which many do.
Look at Song of Solomon and all the sexual lust and they are not married. Look at all the sexual lust in all the Bible and that is not condemned. Jesus did not come to make changes to sexuality other then the law of love. He did not come to condemn every one of God design sexual lust and sexual fantasies. The Sermon on the Mount has be great misunderstood and has brought much legalism into the Church. If God had a major hang up with our sexuality he would have given Adam and Eve a long list of sex rules. He did not.
Lust is greatly misunderstood and misused by people. They forget God designed it and said it was good. We need to apply the law of love to it. We should not go around with a holier-then-thou attitude about sexual lust, sexual fantasies, sexual desires condemn all we see.
Sexual lust is not evil. Evil lust is evil. Lust to murder. Lust to steal. Lust to lie. Lust to hurt someone. Lust to hate.
Sexual lust, sexual fantasies, and sexual desires are not evil, they are God?s design. King David and Solomon and many others Godly leaders, had a lot of lust for women and nothing wrong with that.
Don?t call Gods design evil. Look at some of these web sites.
Take a look at some very sexy verses from the Song of Song. Song of Songs is a very sexy and lusty book in the Bible which most preaches avoid or if they read it they change it all around to try to make it mean something else. http://inkaboutit.homestead.com/sos.html
One Savior--Jesus Christ, One God--our creator God, One Command-- go and tell everyone, One law to follow-- the law of love (the whole law is fulfilled in one law-- the law of love), One heaven-Jesus went to prepare a place for us, One hell-- for non-believers, One heaven- for believer, One work to do--to trust in Christ. | |||||